Reti. But seeing just how much happened in that ten years for the program. So your vision included, at that point, feminist theory as a critical component. Moglen: The vision included feminist theory. I was much less interested in the identity parts of the program, which seemed to me to be a stage of women’s studies which was going to play itself out. But feminist theory more broadly was fascinating to me. It mattered. Feminist theory mattered. I thought that feminist theory was at the heart, not just of changing academic culture, but I would have said then, of changing society. So it felt to me really important to have that graduate component. And Xxxxxx and Xxx, once it was clear that we were doing that, they were utterly behind it. Of course, we hired Xxxxx [Xxxxxxx] in our first position.7 Xxxxx transformed everything. She made an incredible difference. Then we hired Xxxxxx [de Xxxxxxxx] in the second position for histcon. So while we were building women’s studies we were also building feminist theory at the graduate level. Feminist theory in histcon has always had a very close relation to women’s studies (later called feminist studies). The histcon graduate students always TA’d for women’s studies classes and there was always a very close relationship between the two programs. Xxxxx was a very active member of women’s studies. Xxxxx was on the executive committee for women’s studies for years. The UCSC Women’s Center Reti: Yes. And then part of your vision for women’s studies also included the Women’s Center.
Reti. But can I just backtrack a little bit— Xxxxxxxxxx: Please, please. Always a Refugee Reti: So given that you end up teaching Holocaust studies later in your career— Xxxxxxxxxx: When did I know about this? Reti: Well, that, but do you, personally see yourself as a Holocaust refugee? Is this part of your background?
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Reti. Did you find it difficult socially in terms of the class difference between you and the other students? Xxxxx: I was most aware of the class [difference]. There were only maybe three black students out of a class of a thousand students there. You can imagine what it would have been like to have been one of them. But I was most aware of the class differences. And that was manifested partly in the prep school issue. For example, it was only later that Yale started turning its attention to some of the best Eastern high schools, and that meant bringing a lot more Jewish kids. Reti: So there were very few Jewish students at the time you were there? Xxxxx: That’s right. I always was told it was an implicit quota. Interestingly enough, the faculty was probably diversifying more than the student body at that time. I remember several very powerful teachers who were clearly Jewish, although they didn’t advertise their Jewishness, but that was a part of their background. So that was beginning to change. Young faculty coming back from fighting in World War II were then teaching at Yale. So you had a young, more progressive group. But it was an exciting group. Yale had an ethos of having faculty who were committed to teaching, even though it was an undergraduate program. I remember having in my freshman and sophomore year lots of lectures, but by very good lecturers, with some exceptions. But the sections of those courses were taught by instructors. I had people like Xxxx Xxxxxxxxx, who went on to Texas to win the Pulitzer Prize for a book on Western history. I mean, there were people of that nature who were available to us. As an academic experience it was extraordinarily exciting. And I think that because I felt that socially I was somewhat marginal to the major ethos, I threw myself into my studies. I think that was true of many kids of a similar background. I did, they used the term, (laughs) “heel,” compete for a seat on the Yale Daily News, which was the student newspaper. Xxxxx Xxxx, who was the founder of Time Magazine, was one of the first editors there, managing editors of that [the Yale Daily News]. It had a long tradition of sending the top editors on to Time Magazine, or Life, or one of the Xxxx syndicates. And because I had been interested in journalism in high school, I competed for a slot. You essentially had to write articles, sell ads, not something that I was good at. I came from a family that didn’t drink. I remember going to New York to sell liquor...
